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Tim Dawson
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Ok, we'll add a true track switch.
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Tim Dawson (11/5/2014)
It would certainly be possible, yes, though I'm curious how many others would want to remove these.The SkyDemon PLOG was originally designed as a replacement for a paper PLOG, in which you'd do your wind calculations. Therefore the GS column would be the result of that calculation. True track over the ground is a pretty fundamental property of a leg, though, isn't it? But you're saying you'd like to remove it?


Hi Tim,

I definitely see the SD PLOG as a paper one replacement. I know it can sounds strange but in France, you won't find GS on any paper log. I've never seen this info on any paper PLOG in the last 20 years. I was having a meeting with some fellow pilots on yesterday evening and I got the same answer from them too: they do not remember seeing this information on a paper PLOG, except on the foreign visitors's ones Smile

There's a reason for that: in France, GS is not used for any wind/related calculation. It certainly sounds weird but it's true Smile
Instead of GS, we use a "base factor". The base factor is 60/TAS and considered as a persistent value for each plane we fly. e.g: Fb is 0.6 for a Cessna 172 or a DR 400/120, it is 0.5 for a PA28, ...

We use this value because it plugs straight into lots of mental calcs (You won't find any E6B or equivalent in a French pilot case). 
- Max Driftº=windspeed X Fb
- Time (without wind) = distance X Fb

Of course the result is not 100% accurate, but it's good enough and very fast to calculate. A malicious gossip would ever say that it is still more accurate that the drift correction a typical pilot is able to maintain Wink

I don't wan't to pollute this topic too much but, in short, what is fundamental for a pilot in a specific country can be peripheral in another one Smile


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+1 for removing the true track column (being able to), we fly in magnetic, (true is only relevant if you are drawing lines on maps and measure track against lines of longitude).

So IMHO I think true is irrelevant to SD.

Regards
Pete 
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Tim Dawson (11/5/2014)
Mike (@EDTG), I've been considering adding buttons to increase and decrease the text size on the PLOG. If I did so, and it remembered the setting, would that fit the bill? Rather than it remembering the state of the pinch zoom, which is I assume what you're referring to.




Fit the bill perfectly

-mike
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Tim, wind calculation is pretty moot when you are following a magenta line. True track is what the line shows, so having it on the PLOG is redundant and might sway some to deselect it.

-- Chris.
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It would certainly be possible, yes, though I'm curious how many others would want to remove these.
The SkyDemon PLOG was originally designed as a replacement for a paper PLOG, in which you'd do your wind calculations. Therefore the GS column would be the result of that calculation. True track over the ground is a pretty fundamental property of a leg, though, isn't it? But you're saying you'd like to remove it?

Mike (@EDTG), I've been considering adding buttons to increase and decrease the text size on the PLOG. If I did so, and it remembered the setting, would that fit the bill? Rather than it remembering the state of the pinch zoom, which is I assume what you're referring to.
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Hi,

Today's beta is great but, in my opinion, the PLOG columns selection still lack one capability: being able to remove some (default) columns.

ie: my (paper) logs never show both magnetic and true tracks. And GS is something I've never seen on a PLOG. Unfortunately, it's not possible to remove these columns. Is it possible to make the columns selection even more flexible?

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We do betas for iOS, and we don't have any free slots at the moment. It is quite an active beta.
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Mike@EDTG (11/1/2014)
ckurz7000 (11/1/2014)
Tim, has the iOS veraion of SD taken a back seat now? It seems as if the new features are added to Android first, with the iOS lagging behind. I am not getting any update notices from the Appstore for SD.

-- Chris.


IOS simply doesn't allow public betas. So sit back & relax. We will do the beta testing for you 😇

-mike


well - Tim I assume you are familiar with Apples TestFlight: https://developer.apple.com/app-store/testflight/
guess its more the management of the up to 1000 beta testers witch could be a hassle.
But if you decide to do betas for iOS as well, I am pretty sure, you will get a manageable number of constant supporters here
Cheers
Markus
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Tim

I' m in my 50's, so due to my fading eyesight I would appreciate SD to remember zoom settings in PLOG & LIVE PLOG.

Thx

-mike
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